We are looking to travel through Europe and eventually end up in East Asia (China, Thailand, Viet Nam etc) and then on to Australia and New Zealand. We will be willing to work if we have to, but would prefer not to! There is no time limit, we will just see how long it takes. Any suggestions on the cheapest way to do this? I.e, trains etc? Thanks very much!
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January 26th, 2010 at 1:03 am
Trans-Siberian Rail definately. You can travel from Moscow to Mongolia on this and for relatively cheap, considering the distance covered.
Personally though, if you choose this route you’ll be missing out on some of the most interesting parts of Europe and Asia. If you could veer South through Romania and Bulgaria towards Istanbul and on through the wild west of rural Turkey that is where the vast expanse of Central Asia and the Middle East truly opens up.
Azerbaijan, although beautiful, is not worth the hassle with border police, customs and general red tape – you’re best heading straight into Iran – without the doubt the friendiest and hospitable country I have ever been to. Almost everyone you meet will want to make friends with you and invite you into their home for some food and possibly a little (illegal) moonshine! The walks though the hills north of Tehran are simply breathtaking, with seemingly the entire city making the journey up to the cafes and restaurants that adorn the pathways on a weekend.
Buses in Iran are, however, cramped hot and very uncomfortable. If you’re up for the adventure, do it, if not you can fly into neighbouring Turkmenistan for relatively cheap. Again, I will stress it’ll be the highlight of your trip, as will Turkmenistan. Imagine a cross between The Truman Show, with immaculately clean streets and white-wash buildings, and Demolition Man. I parked my car in my hotel car park, and in the morning it was clean. Whoever cleaned it remains a mystery but it’s illegal to have a dirty car in the centre.
The more you research this place the more you’ll think it doesn’t exist.
Catch a train out of Turkmenistan to Uzbekistan and the ancient silk roads of Samarkquand. Then go straight through Kazahkstan – extremely xenophobic country, and mostly a huge land of nothing anyway.
Hitchhike through Mongolia, then once in the centre Ulaan Baatar catch a train into China. From there I don’t knw, cause I’ve not been further. But I highly recommend this route!
January 26th, 2010 at 12:31 am
Look into the Trans-Siberian Rail Road. It might be just what you’re in need of.
January 25th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Well first of all best website for accomdation is www.hostelworld.com become a member! 2ndly for flights www.expedia.com shows you most of the air lines. other wise try out ryan air and easy jet.
Some tips when your in each country try to learn the basics such as 2 tickets to…. thank you please… 2 beers hahhaah etc… you can just search via the net as you do not want to spend loads of money on books (plus you do not want to lug that around when back packing)
also if you do not like sleep in parks, check out prior to going what countries/cities your going to visit and the months, as there might be festivals on or games and everything might be booked out. My tip there is to book for 2 destinations in advance for travel and accomdation.So every third stop make some bookings. Once you get the routine and contecing flights/bus/train you can get it down packed to 15 mins or less.
First check out what is cheaper flight or ferry or train to France as you have the euro star. Then your in europe. I suggest to utilise there local trains that the locals use to get around for country to country like there express trains.
When i was in spain and italy it was cheap to get trains and i travelled via train from arcelona to malaga then to velancia then a 20 min flight from there to ibiza , then ferry from there to barcelona then train to pamplona and back through to milan in italy. Then trains around italy from milan to cinque terre to pisa, (luca) to florence , rome, to anacona then a ferry from there to split croatia. Then hired a car for Croatia to all along the coast up through valencia to venice to austria to munich to amsterdam and dropped the car there and orgainsed that prior to hiring the car to see if i could do that. (or find buy a old van , then you can sleep in it too) Always get the maps for the next city at the stations.
As for Asia you might have to do some reasearch as to which country is the cheapest to buy your ticket from departing and arriving to asia. Once your in Asia id buy your tickes for Australia from there as it would be cheaper and all via internet.
Transport in Australia – not the best local transport as everything is quite far. Cheapest way is to fly from city to city in Australia and cheapest air line is Jet Star! You can they fly from brisbane or sydney to new zealand from there , then from new zealand you can fly jet star back to bangkok then buy your ticket from there back to the uk as it will be cheaper.
I hope this helps, if you need to know anything else , let me know.